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有，Sony的應該是120Hz。 我也在等Sony官方進一步的消息因為Panasonic與Epson都宣布:他們十一月推出的上位機會搭載最新的倍速驅動D7 LCD Panel
http://www.epson.jp/osirase/2008/080909.htm
更何況倍速驅動的SXRD Pnel去年中就已問世了
http://www.sony.co.jp/SonyInfo/News/Press/200704/07-033/index.html
沒道理科技領先業界一年,到現在新機上市仍然只裝在旗艦上吧?! 原帖由 Justin Huang 於 2008-9-9 22:11 發表 http://www.hd.club.tw/images/common/back.gif
我也在等Sony官方進一步的消息
因為Panasonic與Epson都宣布:他們十一月推出的上位機會搭載最新的倍速驅動D7 LCD Panel
http://www.epson.jp/osirase/2008/080909.htm
更何況倍速驅動的SXRD Pnel去年中就已問世了
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Epson的D7液晶板是昨天正式發佈的
率先採用這塊液晶板的EH-TW4000投影機將於11月下旬上市
預計參考售價37萬日圓
底下有簡短的報導，有興趣請點圖參閱
http://www.hi-av.net/uploads/article/image/080910_epson_d7.jpg 這也表示VPL-VW200的繼承機種應該也快要推出了
不過，我有聽到一些傳言
新機種的型號可能不是VPL-VW300
而是VPL-VW250
不知道純屬謠傳
或者確實會成真
到時候有確定消息就知道了 糟糕.....有點想把家裡的VW-50給換掉了8-X 台灣市場一向比較接近日本
因此上位機的New2與戰鬥機的New1之訊息
會是未來台灣市場的重要參考指標 原帖由 SAORI 於 2008-9-10 18:50 發表 http://www.hd.club.tw/images/common/back.gif
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待望已久的消息終於出現！日前於美國發表的VPL-VW70，終於在日本國內公開。店頭預期價格約為80萬日圓
不過，由於Sony是以代號VPL-NEW2稱呼，因此這機於日本發售時，型號可能會有所改變。
本機的訴求相當明確
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SAORI兄：
我想BRAVIA ENGINE 2不等於Motion Flow，這點小弟有跟在Sony展場的PM確認過VW70應該沒有Motion Flow。目前看到的媒體，從IFA到CEDIA再到日本（包括Sony在CEDIA的Press Release），只有PhileWeb有提VW70有MotionFlow的功能，實在不敢確定…，如果有的話，這麼重要的feature，Sony為何不提，而只是在一些有的沒有的小功能改善上打轉？不解…=期待=
[ 本帖最後由 Giu 於 2008-9-11 11:44 編輯 ] SONY開對應96hz這個規格真得是滿詭異的。這個規格主要是對應24p，但120也是24的倍數，真不曉得它又有什麼花樣要玩了。 原帖由 阿平 於 2008-9-11 10:35 發表 http://www.hd.club.tw/images/common/back.gif
Jett 你就 XR1 + X95 +VPL-NEW2一次通通換啦:D
這有很大的困難度
如果VPL-NEW2真的要約80萬日幣.....那就真的是無緣了苦臉@
我看我還是再去補一顆VW-50的燈泡好了:-w 看了幾位前輩的說明，這台美VW-70規格似乎還大有可期…或許到實機測試才見出真章…
另外jett，一直買燈泡也不是辦法啊!!!@$$@ 原帖由 SAORI 於 2008-9-11 16:10 發表 http://www.hd.club.tw/images/common/back.gif
VPL-NEW2有辦法做到96/120Hz，沒有畫面數的「補間」處理是絕對做不到的，只不過現在所有處理回路的名稱全改了，我才說有可能不會繼續叫Motion Flow...
同等於舊Motion Flow或更強的此類機能,是絕對不會沒有的！ ...
Sony上一代的SXRD panel的顯示掃描為：影像處理迴路送60Hz、SXRD panel掃描同一個frame，60Hz顯示。
這一代的SXRD panel的顯示掃描為：影像處理迴路送120Hz（可以是repeated frame或經補間處理的兩個frame）、SXRD panel掃描同一個frame，120Hz顯示。
TrueMotion 24P時則為：訊源24p，影像處理迴路送48Hz（可以是repeated frame或經補間處理的兩個frame）、SXRD panel重複掃描同一個frame，96Hz顯示。
這是SXRD的工程規格。
MotionFlow是Sony發表VW200時提出的補間處理(Dark Frame Insertion)運算技術。當然，Sony在還沒把要在日本發表的正式型號確認前，VPL-NEW2的名稱頗為曖昧，有可能加入MotionFlow後，型號是VPL-VW80。
至於影像處理迴路的改款及名稱，從Sony剛發表沒多久的LCD電視系列中我們還可以看到XR1的 “ 残像低減技術「モーションフロープロ120Hz」”
XR1用的是Bravia Engine 2 Pro、MotionFlow 120 Hz
W1用的是Bravia Engine 2 、MotionFlow 240 Hz
影像處理的Bravia Engine和MotionFlow的處理是不同的迴路，MotionFlow這個名稱應該不會消失或併入Bravia Engine的某個版本。
[ 本帖最後由 Giu 於 2008-9-11 22:13 編輯 ] 補張圖看一下MotionFlow 120Hz及MotionFlow 240Hz：
好消息第一时间分享给大家：鼓掌=
The BRAVIA VPL-VW80 SXRD™ Full HD Projector: Advanced Technical Features For The Next Step Up In Home Cinema
* Re-creates the cinematic experience in fantastic detail with 1080p Full HD
* High Frame Rate SXRD with Motionflow Dark Frame Insertion for ultra-smooth action
* Superlative picture quality with BRAVIA ENGINE 2 signal processing
Basingstoke, 11. September 2008 - Sony’s new BRAVIA VPL-VW80 SXRD projector is designed to be the next logical step for the serious Home Cinema enthusiast. At its heart lies Sony’s SXRD™ (Silicon X-tal Reflective Display) panel technology that delivers exquisitely fine-grained 1080p Full HD for a truly cinematic experience. The special High Frame Rate SXRD panels and exclusive Motionflow Dark Frame Insertion system double the frame rate to 100Hz for fluid, natural movement no matter how fast the action gets. Eight-stage real-time signal processing by Sony’s BRAVIA ENGINE 2 ensures outstanding colour and visibly superior overall image quality.
The core of the BRAVIA VPL-VW80 is its High Frame Rate triple SXRD™ panel array which can operate at 100 fps – double the norm - for exceptionally smooth on-screen action. SXRD delivers the full 1920 x 1080 resolution demanded by Full HD with cinematic clarity and precision thanks to its super-fine panel micro-architecture. 7µm pixels spaced just 0.25µm apart produce an image completely free from the ‘screen door’ pixel grid effect that can undermine other projection systems. The 2.5ms response time makes a further contribution to the overall impression of fluid, natural movement essential for a convincing recreation of the cinematic experience.
The projector uses Motionflow Dark Frame Insertion to deliver on the potential offered by the High Frame rate SXRD panels. Motionflow itself works by creating intermediate frames from the original video source and inserting them to double the number of images displayed every second. The unprecedented level of accuracy with which this is done ensures that what you see on the screen is a seamless, perfectly crisp and smoothly moving image.
Dark Frame Insertion enhances the effect of Motionflow. The optional insertion of darkened frames heightens the contrast and eliminates any judder – the jerky picture that can occur when the camera pans – by allowing the eye ‘space’ to blend one frame into the next. This action mimics that of actual movie projection and functions best in the darkened environment of a Home Cinema.
Contrast is central to superior picture quality, so the innate high contrast of SXRD is leveraged by Sony’s Advanced Iris 2 system to produce a super-high contrast ratio of up to 60,000:1. Advanced Iris 2 works in real time to analyse each scene and adjust the aperture dynamically to achieve the best possible picture. It prevents detail being lost to the shadows in dark scenes, while brightly lit sequences are prevented from washing out.
To ensure the best possible results, the VPL-VW80 features electronic panel alignment allowing users to achieve an exact alignment of the red, green and blue elements within each pixel. This can be done full screen or by selecting specific zones for pinpoint adjustment. The result is an image with no trace of fuzziness or colour bloom along the edges of objects.
When it comes to colour, the first stage in ensuring excellent reproduction is carried out by the BRAVIA ENGINE 2, which optimises every frame for vibrant and lifelike results. If additional adjustment is necessary, Real Colour Processing (RCP) provides a precision toolkit for getting the right results. Crucially, Real Colour Processing allows you to adjust the hue of a specific colour without changing the whole image. So if something like skin tone needs tweaking, you can do it without altering the colour of the sky or the background of the scene.
The BRAVIA VPL-VW80 provides full support for the xvYCC colour space, the new industry standard encompassing a range nearly two times wider than the existing sRGB standard. Like all Sony products with this capability, it bears the x.v.Colour sub-brand, indicating to customers that it is ready for a future where the phrase ‘lifelike colour’ will take on a new depth of meaning.
In addition, the BRAVIA VPL-VW80 also offers Deep Colour™, which increases the number of colours available within the boundaries defined by x.v.Colour from millions to billions. Again, like x.v.Colour, this readies the projector for exciting developments in the way in which colour is captured and reproduced. Right now, the best way to appreciate the effects of Deep Colour™ is with Playstation™ 3 – new games will use it to push the boundaries of realism to ever-higher levels.
Full HD images generated by the projector are built up of millions of pixels, each only 7µm across. Whilst this is key to the impressive realism of the picture, it requires an excellent lens or detail will be lost. The VPL-VW80 is equipped with the All Range Crisp Focus (ARC-F) lens which has the necessary superior resolution and focus characteristics. The lens offers a 1.6x motorised zoom and both vertical and horizontal adjustment, making it easy to set the projector up and achieve a good picture in a variety of environments. To keep the lens in perfect condition it has a motorised cover which automatically opens when the power is turned on, and closes again at power-down.
The inclusion of twin connectors with HDMI™ technology opens up another dimension for the VPL-VW80. It makes it possible to connect to video sources like Blu-ray Disc™ players which offer exact, 24 frame-per-second replication of the cinematic original. As the projector has the ‘24p True Cinema’ function, it can display films exactly as they were first recorded. By contrast, conventional transfers to DVD employ a higher frame rate and run approximately 4% faster than the original, affecting both the picture quality and the pitch of the soundtrack.
HDMI™ CEC technology also allows control of multiple devices from a single remote in a process called BRAVIA Theatre Sync. One Touch Play lets you insert a disc and press Play, at which point the whole Home Theatre system, including the projector, powers up automatically and the film starts. Conversely, System Stand-By shuts down all HDMI-connected elements of the system at a single press of the Power/Standby button on the remote.
The attention to detail – and getting it right – extends all the way to this sometimes neglected peripheral. The remote makes use of large buttons for easy operation of key functions, and features a backlight so you don’t need to turn the lights up and spoil the atmosphere.
Home Cinema enthusiasts in search of perfection will no doubt be drawn to the Anamorphic Zoom function. This uses sophisticated signal processing of widescreen modes together with an optional third-party anamorphic lens to recreate the immersive 2.35:1 CinemaScope aspect ratio normally only seen in the cinema. One of the the two Trigger Out terminals handles Anamorphic Zoom mode; the other is for power.
One last thing worth noting about the VPL-VW80 is something you cannot even see, but that makes a crucial difference to the viewing experience. Thanks to a fan assembly specially designed by Sony that runs almost noiselessly on a non-contact spindle, the projector is whisper-quiet, emitting less than 20dB when running.
“With the VPL-VW80 we are offering customers genuinely high-end features in a top mid-segment model,” says Josh Honda, Senior Marketing Manager at Sony. “This means real baseline quality plus fine control where it matters, like Motionflow Dark Frame Insertion and detailed panel alignment. This will appeal to the knowledgeable buyer keen to upgrade to HD or improve an existing HD setup – and who wants to do it properly.”
The BRAVIA VPL-VW80 now forms the centrepiece of the BRAVIA HD Home projector range. For those joining the HD revolution there’s the more affordable VPL-HW10 with its ideal balance of ease of use with very high image quality; an entry HD model with great cinematic features. At the top end, the VPL-VW200 combines a full cast of the most sophisticated image technologies with a Xenon lamp and a Carl Zeiss lens. 好消息！這是英國方面釋出的新聞稿，其他地區應會陸續發佈吧… VW70在IFA及CEDIA皆被“正式”對媒體發表，Sony這樣的公司還不至於會做這樣的事、開天下之大玩笑…
這個press release沒提到一樣東西 – 價格！如果售價等於或約為US$8,000，那Sony就開了美國人一個大玩笑，美國人不太能忍受買的東西比別人貴。@$$@
但就另一個角度來說，我聽到很多美國VW200的用家都不太愛用MotionFlow，也許美國Sony特意把MotionFlow拿掉。以Sony那麼大的公司來說，為美國那麼大的市場，多個SKU也不是甚麼難事。只要價格、市場有區別，Sony要同時有VW70和VW80，應該不是衝突的事情吧！ Sony 的投影機做的那麼多款...
功能差距也很細微 .... 實在是令人眼花撩亂 @-)
以人眼視覺暫留的極限, 把 24fps 換成 96Hz 多插進去的 Frame
到底值不值得 2倍以上的售價 ...:-B
難道這樣畫面就會比電影院看到的還棒嗎 !?
真是越高檔, CP 值越低啊 ~ 美國sony官方網站已經釋出規格及預購
定價為美金7999元
看其規格並沒提到有motionfiow
其HDMI 1.3版輸入端子有支援X.V.COLOR及DEEP COLOR
附上其連結
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665533555
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