4K BD傳已拍板
The new 4K blu-ray will be 100GB using triple layer (33GB per layer).HDMI 2.0
沒聽説過有 33GB 的藍光, 這樣對吧. 它是指33G為一層，一共三層。幹嘛不用現有的100G就好了BDXL？SONY之前不是有300G的光碟嗎？無法量產？ 由於太難以置信, 小弟也不貼來源, 且看他是說真還是流言? 真4K大神降臨! 假4K就要退場! 本文章最後由 r32 於 2013-9-12 12:13 編輯
No format war as 4K Blu-ray discs spin closer
The announcement of a next-gen Blu-ray disc is imminent – and there will be no 4k Ultra HD format war, the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) told TechRadar in Berlin.
Brushing-off fears that consumers are now more interested in streaming from the likes of Netflix and Lovefilm than in collecting optical discs, Marty Gordon, Philips' Vice President for Alliances & Communications and spokesman for the BDA, promised an announcement of an 'enhanced' Blu-ray format 'soon'
"The BDA's task-force has been working feverishly and we expect an announcement soon – I hope this year," he said.
He also confirmed that the announcement would involve a traditional-looking disc.
"It will be an optical disc, but I can't comment on any of the specs," he said, also pointing out that the 300GB format Panasonic and Sony are rumoured to be working on is not the same initiative. "It wasn't part of the BDA," he said. "It's for professional use only so it's something totally separate from Blu-ray."
So could we see another damaging format war to echo the HD-DVD Vs Blu-ray fisticuffs from 2007-2008?
"We don't see any war, we don't see that happening with the next generation of Blu-ray," Gordon told TechRadar. "Standardisation is the exact reason why the BDA exists. It only reinforces the importance of working in a task-force so we can take everyone's opinions into account and really fully vet the technology."
However, any new Blu-ray disc format could go further than simply extra pixels. "We don't view it as just 4k," said Gordon. "To us it's just the next step. Blu-ray offers the best possible quality so it would be natural for it to have 4k, but if we're going to do it we should do it right."
Though Gordon couldn't comment on HDMI 2.0's place within a new Blu-ray ecosystem, he did say that a new Blu-ray format would "be about more than just pixels", perhaps taking advantage of HDMI 2.0's new higher data transfer rate, which has increased from 10Gbps to 18Gbps. Technically that could mean dual 4k video streams, though Gordon was keen to talk-up the enhanced audio, too.
HDMI 2.0 could mark the death of traditional 5.1 and even 7.1-channel home cinema sound, ushering in support for a stunning 32 channels of uncompressed audio. "We think audio is one of the important features to look into," said Gordon. "We're definitely seeing more a demand for high quality audio."
http://www.techradar.com/news/video/blu-ray/no-format-war-as-4k-blu-ray-discs-spin-closer-1180129 所以沒有 4K 規格的戰爭了! 進入4K, 現有的藍光機不能用了,
那 PS4 的藍光機可以用嗎?
小弟我要搶買 PS4 , OK 嗎?
據說4K BD會以新壓縮解碼技術來做, 用不著100GB 的載體 sachiko1900 發表於 2013-9-12 12:59 static/image/common/back.gif
據說4K BD會以新壓縮解碼技術來做, 用不著100GB 的載體
是有聽説要用 H.265 , 那 50GB 就有機會了 總之就是很期待就對了!!!
z880016 發表於 2013-9-12 13:48 static/image/common/back.gif
總之就是很期待就對了!!!
不過要先買一台 4K TV,
否則無法看到真正 4K 影像 Zzebra 發表於 2013-9-12 13:50 static/image/common/back.gif
不過要先買一台 4K TV,
否則無法看到真正 4K 影像
確實
單純收集不夠過癮
有檔案也不能看
就跟沒有差不多 z880016 發表於 2013-9-12 13:54 static/image/common/back.gif
確實
單純收集不夠過癮
有檔案也不能看
看來要準備的銀彈要不少啊...
最好大陸做的 4K TV 又便宜又耐用又賣到台灣 如果這是BDXL格式那支援BDXL的電腦光碟機應該就能讀了. H.264 跟 H.265 的演算法複雜度是有差別的
要能順利解的 到時後晶片一定要換
給你一台只有標準一檔的車子
在正常的道路上
只能用一檔跑
應該是很難有機會能跑到時速兩百的... 來真的吧.
德國新格拉斯科技集團開發了藍光光碟生產線BLULINE II，產品存儲容量為50GB，在單面雙層藍光光碟這一領域，公司在世界領域都佔據獨特的位置。
過去兩年內，設備概念有所發展，公司開發了三層藍光光碟，儲存容量為100GB，這使得德國新格拉斯科技集團可以快速而又靈活的應對不斷發展的市場需求。BLULINEIII產品就是在不斷完善的BLULINE II基礎上開發的新生代產品。
藍光光碟存儲容量為100GB，其三層存儲層可以存儲更多資料資訊（例如，新型的高解析度視頻格式“超高清畫質”，其解析度為3,840 x 2,160圖元點）
對於可寫藍光光碟這一市場領域，德國新格拉斯科技集團提供的生產設備可以生產一次性可寫藍光光碟和可迴圈利用型可寫藍光光碟，而且所有生產步驟均實現了自動化。
http://www.singulus.de/uploads/pics/1_bluline2.jpg 100GB discs point to 4K Blu-ray
An announcement by Singulus Technologies, a maker of replication machines that produce Blu-ray discs, points toward a new standard for 4K
by David Katzmaier
September 12, 2013 6:41 AM PDT
A physical media standard for next-generation 4K video now looks closer than ever.
A German optical disc replication equipment maker by the name of Singulus Technologies has announced details on a new machine, the Bluline III, capable of manufacturing triple-layer Blu-ray discs that can store up to 100GB.
The current Blu-ray disc standard used by most home video releases supports capacities up to 50GB.
The announcement of machines capable of delivering higher capacity pressed discs comes prior to any official word from the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA), the industry coalition that's currently discussing a new standard for 4K Blu-ray in its committees.
But as HDTVTest.uk rightly points out, the new Singulus machines are as solid an indicator as any that an official 4K Blu-ray format is on the way soon: "After all, there would be no other use for a machine capable of manufacturing factory-pressed 100GB discs if a hardware update was not imminent."
The last such major announcement of a Blu-ray specification by the BDA was December 2009, when the association revealed the 3D Blu-ray spec. Plenty of 4K news is expected around the time of the 2014 Consumer Electronics Show in January, which seems a natural time for the BDA to make 4K Blu-ray official, absent any delays.
Sony's proprietary video player notwithstanding, lack of content is one of the major knocks against 4K. With the 4K-friendlier HDMI 2.0 standard finally official, and numerous new 4K sets hitting the market at ever-more-affordable prices, the industry's pumps are primed to address that lack.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57602583-221/100gb-discs-point-to-4k-blu-ray/ SINGULUS TECHNOLOGIES Presents Production Technology for 100 GB Blu-ray Disc
September 10, 2013
◾First successful production tests for 100 GB Blu-ray Disc
◾Innovative production machines developed under the brand name BLULINE III
◾New ultra-high definition TV format in the spotlight at the IFA
◾100 GB Blu-ray Disc ideal for playback of movies in 4K resolution
Kahl am Main, September 10, 2013 - The SINGULUS TECHNOLOGIES AG (SINGULUS TECHNOLOGIES) developed a new replication line under the product name BLULINE III for the manufacturing of triple-layer Blu-ray Discs with a storage capacity of 100 GB. Production equipment by SINGULUS TECHNOLOGIES enables the production of next generation optical discs on the basis of the current BLULINE II machines for dual-layer Blu-ray Discs.
Dr.-Ing. Stefan Rinck, Chief Executive Officer of the SINGULUS TECHNOLOGIES AG, comments: “Just in time for the market introduction of the new ultra-high definition television technology (4K or Ultra-HD), we completed the development of the production technology for the new triple-layer Blu-ray Discs with 100 GB storage capacity”. Dr. Rinck adds: “For SINGULUS TECHNOLOGIES, in the Optical Disc segment the year 2013 has been very positive overall. Until the end of this year’s August we received significantly more orders for Blu-ray Disc production machines than in the prior-year period. We also see good opportunities for the sales of our Blu-ray production equipment in the future. The positive life cycle of the Blu-ray Disc will continue for some years with the launch of the new ultra-high definition television format”.
The further advancement of today’s Blu-ray Discs, the triple-layer Blu-ray Discs with 100 GB storage capacity, is the preferred playback medium for the new 4K technology. With the realization of a new and specifically designed data compression method for the ultra-high definition technology, the storage volume per information layer can be increased from 25 GB to 33 GB. In its committees, the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) is currently discussing the specifications of new, global standards. SINGULUS TECHNOLOGIES already completed the marketable concept of a new replication line.
At the IFA 2013 media and technology companies provide insights into the future of television: Sky, Astra, Sony, Harmonic, the Fraunhofer Heinrich-Hertz-Institute and the German TV-Platform present ultra-high definition. The new generation of high definition television provides four times the resolution (3,840 x 2,560 pixels) of HDTV. 4K will become less expensive: in Berlin a Chinese manufacturer is presenting new Ultra-HD TVs with a price tag of less than € 2,000.
http://www.singulus.com/en/press-news/press-releases/press-release/article/singulus-technologies-presents-production-technology-for-100-gb-blu-ray-disc/7.html 徐元直 發表於 2013-9-11 21:22 static/image/common/back.gif
它是指33G為一層，一共三層。幹嘛不用現有的100G就好了BDXL？SONY之前不是有300G的光碟嗎？無法量產？ ...
BDXL 就是 100GB 和 128GB.
而 BDXL 100GB 的確是 三層資料, 每一層是 33GB.
日本的 BDXL 價格雖然已經砍半了, 但還是很貴,
大約是幾年前 BD 50G 的價格, 可見有多貴.