NEW 1080p LCoS projector

Peter Caesar

HD-900 Full HD Home Theater Projector

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背面

   
Projection Technology:  Three LCoS Projection system  
LCoS  Panel Technology: LCoS (Liquid Crystal-on-Silicon)  
Panel Size:             0.7”  
Panel Arrangement:      3 panels, in R, G, B
Native Resolution:      1920 x 1080 pixels  

Aspect Ratio:           16:9  
Light Engine:           Full HD CRYSTALR Light Engine  
Lamp  250W UHP  
Projection Lens Type:   Powered zoom, Powered Focus  
Zoom Ratio:             1.35: 1  
F-number:               2.9 ~ 3.6  
Lens Offset:            100%  
Iris Control:           30%, 60%, 100% (TBD)  

Projection Size:        40 ~ 300 inch (Diagonal, 16:9)  
Throw Distance/100"     3.57m ~ 4.87m
Brightness:             1,000 ANSI lumens (Picture Mode: Dynamic)
Contrast Ratio:         6,000:1
Color Depth:            30 bits (10 bits per channel)
Lamp Life:              2,000 hours (Standard)
Keystone Adjustment:    Vertical and Horizontal
Video Processing:       Silicon Optix Realta T2™  

Video Compatibility:   
NTSC: M, 4.43Mhz    PAL: B, D, G, H, I, M, N    SECAM: B, D, G, K, K1, L  

Signal Compatibilities  RGB, Composite video, Y/C Video

VGA: fH: 31.5 ~ 100k Hz, fV: 43 ~ 85 Hz Component: 50/60 Hz

DTV : 480i, 480P, 576i, 576P, 720i, 720P, 1080i, 1080P  

Input  Digital: DVI x 1  
Composite x 1  
S-Video x 1  
Component x 1 (3 RCA)  
Analog RGB: VGA x 1 (D-sub 15 pin)  

External Control I/O  System: USB: Type A  
Trigger: DC 12V x 1 (Mini Jack)  

Color Modes  Dynamic/standard/Natural/Theater/User #1/User #2/User #3

OSD Languages  English/French/Spanish/German/Italian/Dutch/Traditional Chinese  
Simplified Chinese/Japanese  

Remote Control  I/R receiving window x 2 (front and back)  
Projection Positions  Front Table/Front Ceiling/Rear Table/Rear Ceiling  
Power  AC 100 ~ 240v, 50/60Hz  
Power Consumption  Maximum: <350W

Standby: <0.3W  

Noise  < 24 dB  
Dimension  TBD, 462(W) X 155 (H) X 390 (D)  
Compliance  CE, FCC Class B  
Weight  15Kg (Approx.)  
Supplied Accessories  Remote Control x 1/Power Cord x 1/USB cable x 1  

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出處: 示創科技, Cinetron
http://www.cinetron.com.tw/index.htm

LibraC

規格看起來不錯!
LCos的價格 Orz................... 唉!

Peter Caesar

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規格看起來不錯!
LCos的價格 Orz................... 唉!</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>

預期的 MSRP 應該會低於 SONY Ruby,
猜測中的 Street price 可能在 US$6,000~

Jeff Hsu

最近努力的研究1080i 轉720P輸出,
發現目前還是難度頗高,
還是用固定1080條 的數位顯示幕輸出最適宜,
不管是1080 Lcos, DLP, LCD, 希望大家趕快上市降價才是真的.

jadis

上海展上有&#36825;&#20010;机器.&#39068;色不是太好.&#30011;面是灰灰的.感&#35273;&#23545;比度不是很高,&#36824;有就是&#36825;&#20010;机器似乎不太&#31283;定.

Peter Caesar

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上海展上有&#36825;&#20010;机器.&#39068;色不是太好.&#30011;面是灰灰的.感&#35273;&#23545;比度不是很高,&#36824;有就是&#36825;&#20010;机器似乎不太&#31283;定.</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>

哦~, 看規格似乎棒得不得了?
我的 1080p 便宜計畫看來是前途多艱了！

BTW, 不知是那位大大幫我補圖上來的? Thanks~

Peter Caesar

Cinetron 在香港, AVbuss:
http://www.avbuzz.com/event/album105?page=1

Peter Caesar

按照 Li On 的說法, 畫質(色調)有點跟不上 JVC, 比起　SONY Ruby 就各方面都差得更遠了
(這和 jadis 的觀察很吻合):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=627322&page=20&pp=20

I didn't attend the show. I saw the projector briefly the afternoon before the show. What I saw didn't impress me. But I heard that the unit is a prototype (it doesn't even has HDCP on the DVI input!) and the production unit may be very different. Hence I don't think there is much to comment.

Actually right after I saw the Cinetron, I went to another highend hometheater shop on the same street and saw the new JVC 1080p projector (aka the Sony copycat!). The source was the same Toshiba XA1 with the same Phantom of the Opera HD-DVD! The projector was coupled with the bundled iScan scaler. The projector was just installed the day before and any calibration was very limited. But the picture was... equally unimpressive!

On the other hand, the Ruby is so much better IMO if not for the dread "white compression" problem!

regards,

Li On

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Last edited by Li On : Yesterday at 05:41 PM.




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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7665123#post7665123

I didn't comment much because I heard the unit is indeed a prototype. Even the LCOS panel will be from a different brand in the production model.

If you guys insists, I'd say the black level is decent but overall not bright enough. Color tonal was not there yet but that should be due to calibration. Contrast looked decent but again nothing to write home about. Sharpness seems good but the overall picture had a heavy tone of too much DNR effect applied, hence a bit oil painting look. That may be due to the control of it's internal HQV processing. All in all, the prototype unit didn't impress me.

The JVC 1080p in the other setup had much better color rendering but that is expected from a decent LCOS setup. Contrast was lacking with POOR black level (even on a sound screen!) and yet there was plenty of brightness. Resolution and sharpness was lacking due to the cheap bundled iScan processor which can't do 3/2 pulldown process from the Toshiba HD-DVD source. Again, the overall presentation was very un-impressive!

On the other hand, the Ruby gave a great picture with sharpness and resolution, great color, stunning contrast with excellent black level and plenty of brightness. Until I saw the ugly "white compression" artifact, that is!

Meaning... the future is not setted!

regards,

Li On

PS: ok, the good news is the $6K suggested retail is true!  
  
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不過, 這還不是正式量產機器, 說不定屆時 MSRP$6000 還是會有驚喜∼  

jadis

上海展上他&#20204;一&#20250;&#35828;是6000美&#22278;一&#20250;又&#35828;是8000美&#22278;.我&#36824;和提供他&#20204;芯片的厂家的工程&#24072;聊了好一&#20250;.他&#36824;&#32473;我看了&#36825;&#20010;机器里面的芯片.呵呵

<font color="#000066">[這篇文章最後由jadis在 2006/05/17 02:46:32 AM 編輯]</font>

Peter Caesar

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上海展上他&#20204;一&#20250;&#35828;是6000美&#22278;一&#20250;又&#35828;是8000美&#22278;.
我&#36824;和提供他&#20204;芯片的厂家的工程&#24072;聊了好一&#20250;.他&#36824;&#32473;我看了&#36825;&#2001; ...</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>

賣便宜了怕少賺, 賣貴了又怕市場反應死得難看∼
其實, Projector 的市場進化得飛快, 只有正式推出時才能真正的決定 Street price;
我猜, 他們到目前心中只有一個期望售價吧.

謠傳, SONY 又要出比 Ruby 更低一階的 SXRD FP, 採用一般的 UHP 燈泡;
大家都猜會賣 US$5,000, 如果屬實, 屆時投影機市場的價格結構又是一番天搖地動.
Cinetron 目前期望的 US$6000 or $8000 MSRP 也會成為笑話一則.

PS, Li On 提到, Cinetron 可能會臨陣換將, 改用他款 LCoS panel, 壓力也真是大！

jadis

&#29616;在用的是比利&#26102;一家公司提供的!哈哈