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[新品速報] Sony在柏林IFA發表最新4K投影機VW500ES / VW1100ES

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發表於 2013-9-15 14:05:51 | 顯示全部樓層
Richman2 發表於 2013-9-12 21:25
SONY 最近推出很多商品,
不簡單!
還以為會被三星打垮

SONY 賠錢˙是日圓太高,日圓一貶,三星根本就是被打玩的----
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發表於 2013-9-25 16:00:33 | 顯示全部樓層
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發表於 2013-9-26 22:35:45 | 顯示全部樓層
Sony在CEDIA公佈了VW1100ES的新資料 :


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發表於 2013-9-26 22:54:30 | 顯示全部樓層
http://translate.googleuserconte ... 5azCS7WvT6UsN5k8bhQ

SONY VPL-VW1100ES 4K VPL-VW1000ES Replacement - Price € 18,999

Owners of the current VPL-VW1000ES will the "Premium Support" and a fee (estimated at 2000 euros price) update to their precious to the VPL-VW1100ES.

The update does not include the self-calibration has the VPL-VW500ES.

Active 3D RF.

No USB.
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發表於 2013-9-26 23:14:22 | 顯示全部樓層
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發表於 2013-9-27 08:06:18 | 顯示全部樓層
I met SonyDave and had a great talk with him. All us 1000ES early adopters owe him a great deal of thanks for helping bring about this upgrade package, which as he said, will make the 1000ES into a 1100ES.

In addition to replacing the I/O board (for HDMI 2.0), the entire Motherboard will be replaced, all with the latest FW. This will allow various pic enhancements, e.g., to deal with 'mastered in 4K' BD's.

Panel adjustment in R, G, and B will now be possible (not just R and B). The CMS capabilities of the 1100ES are essentially the same as those in the 1000ES (in service menu), and the light engines are essentially the same, both quoted as producing 2000 lumens). Even the logo on the menu of the upgraded 1000ES will note it to be a 1100ES!

The only drawback, that some of you asked about, is that the warranty of the upgrade 1000ES will not be increased beyond the 3 yrs from the original date of purchase, but with the reliability of these machines I don't see this as a major deal.

Only the 600ES (MSRP $15K) was shown, and it did indeed look very nice. MSRP of the 1100ES is $28K,

In summary, this 1000ES upgrade deal is better than I think any of us had expected and is a generous offer for Sony's most adverturesome customers. I don't see how any 1000ES owner can pass this up.

post by millerwill, avs

按 : VW1000ES根本不設CMS, 暫時亦未証實1100ES設有與否
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發表於 2013-9-27 08:15:15 | 顯示全部樓層
4K小弟弟在美國型號是VW600ES, 其他地區是VW500ES.
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發表於 2013-9-27 08:24:52 | 顯示全部樓層
http://blog.sony.com/press/cedia-2013/

Sony VPL-VW600ES 4K Home Theater Projector

The VPL-VW600ES home theater projector, like the VW1100 and VW1000 models offers Full Digital Cinema Initiative (DCI)-based 4096 x 2160 resolution, delivering a cinematic 4K experience. The VPL-VW600ES projector boasts 1,700 ANSI-lumens of brightness and a 200,000:1 contrast ratio. The projector has rich color reproduction thanks to TRILUMINOS™ display, an enhanced optical engine design, and auto-calibration and manual color correction features to allow installers to adjust the hue, saturation and brightness to obtain and maintain a customized picture quality. Also, meeting the latest HDMI® standard, it supports 4K native resolution at 60 frames per second. Dramatically improving the viewers’ experience, the Reality Creation engine for 4K upscaling enhances both the “Mastered in 4K” Blu-ray Discs and high definition 1080p content including 3D video.

The VPL-VW600ES sports a compact, installation-friendly design, offering technology integrators and end-users more options for placement, especially in replacement situations. New features such as front-exhaust, a 2.06x powered zoom lens, and a wide lens shift range provide further installation flexibility and remarkable performance in nearly every screening room. For 3D viewing, the VW600 includes a built in RF transmitter which conforms to the “Full HD 3D Initiative” industry standard and uses the same glasses as Sony’s 3D Bravia televisions. Available in November for $14,999.99, this projector is optimized to work with Video Unlimited 4K, which is only available in the US. It may also be purchased as a package that includes a Sony FMP-X1 4K Ultra HD Media Player and a Sony Xperia Z Tablet for $15,999.99.
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-9-27 12:23:20 | 顯示全部樓層
Sony今天也同時宣布在美國市場推出旗艦的VW1100ES與VW600ES (即美版的VW500ES)兩台4K投影機,前者訂價2.8萬美元,後者1.5萬美元。

VW1100ES亮度降為2000流明,對比仍是100萬:1;但同機贈送一台4K月餅盒
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發表於 2013-9-27 18:11:21 | 顯示全部樓層
45萬台幣嗎?看來還是乖乖買電視機好了,神啊讓我中個一千萬發票吧!
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發表於 2013-9-27 18:50:28 | 顯示全部樓層
terry 發表於 2013-9-27 12:23
Sony今天也同時宣布在美國市場推出旗艦的VW1100ES與VW600ES (即美版的VW500ES)兩台4K投影機,前者訂價2.8萬 ...

VW500ES原本公佈的參考售價是1萬美金吧...現在變1萬5美金!! 索尼老大是因為沒對手而漲價嗎?

怒阿!!
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發表於 2013-9-28 23:20:46 | 顯示全部樓層
奇怪的比較.........
假如屬實則引證了HDMI 2.0不一定需要昇格接線的原因........
Panasonic UHDTV對各種不同UHD有最佳兼容性?
或許VW500ES會再有終極一up??

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發表於 2013-10-2 18:25:55 | 顯示全部樓層
本文章最後由 r32 於 2013-10-2 18:28 編輯

http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog/2013/10/01/sony-vpl-vw600es-projector-cedia-2013/#more-2170

October 1st, 2013 Art Feierman
  
Greetings projector fans, it’s time to talk about the two new Sony projectors.  This blog will cover the more “affordable” Sony VPL-VW600ES, priced at a mere $14999.

The VPL-VW600ES is also available bundled with Sony’s round 4K server and a Sony tablet for an additional $1000!
Before I discuss the VW600ES in more depth, I’ll just briefly mention that the other new 4K projector is the VPL-VW1100Es which replaces the VW1000ES.   That one is $27,999 and an extra $1000 for the 4K server and tablet, if desired.
Let me start by saying that  I had one of the pre-production VW600ES projectors here (in my home) to play with for about 6 hours, a couple weeks before the show, but coudn’t say a word, due to the usual non-disclosure agreements.

If you are one of the lucky, that can seriously consider a $15,000 projector, the Sony VPL-VW600ES is dazzling.

The primary differences between the VW600ES and it’s more expensive sibling lie in two areas:  The optics are, per Sony, superior on the more expensive Sony, and the black levels are better.   If you recall, I had said about the VW1000ES that it had the best dynamic iris enhanced black levels I have encountered.  The VW600ES isn’t that good, but my take from playing with it, is that the projector’s blacks are superior to the Sony VW50ES and comparable or better than the VW95ES or Epson Home Cinema 5020UB/Pro Cinema 6020UB projectors.

That is to say, not the best black levels in the world but pretty impressive none-the-less, and as good as pretty much anything except JVC’s higher end 2K projectors (I still won’t consider their 4K e-Shift to be true 4K).  So that’s pretty spectacular blacks.

Unlike a review, the VPL-VW600ES came to me all configured, calibrated, etc.  And again, it was an engineering sample – definitely pre-production, so the settings likely would be different from what we get when we get one in for review and Mike calibrates it.

Whether at CEDIA or in my theater, the Sony’s skin tones looked really great, and that’s one of the most important things to consider.  At both CEDIA, and in my theater I got to see true 4K content, as well as upscaled 2K (1080p) content.
As with the older VW1000ES 4K content was truly astonishing.  Upscaling of course can be impressive, but it’s true 4K that blows me away.  There was a whole lot of footage from Carnival in Rio.  Mind boggling comes to mind.

The VW600ES has lens memory, so if 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 Cinemascope / anamorphic shaped screens are where you want to be, no problem.  This Sony allows multiple lens memory positions to be saved so that you can go back between true “wide-screen” and HDTV content effortlessly from the remote control.

I’ll run through a few features now, but the picture is really the main thing.  I just love the idea of having a very sharp image (with true 4K content, while sitting only 7-8 feet from my 124″ diagonal screen.   I live for the immersion – especially if the content is 3D.

Speaking of 3D, which I got to view at my house, nothing to complain about there.  There’s a healthy number of lumens under the hood (rated 1700 lumens), to do a respectable job on my sized screen!  Note that the VW600ES also does 2D to 3D conversion on the fly!

One feature which really caught my attention, but no way to “demo” it, is Sony’s built in “auto calibration”.  Sony says it knows what output to the screen looks like, so that if things change (such as adding light colored furniture) might affect the picture, it remembers and adjusts.  Does that work for aging lamps?  I would hope so, but never got to ask, or at least not get a precise answer.  I’ll let you know.

Sony is sticking with a motorized 1.6:1 zoom lens (although a less expensive lens than the one on the VW1100ES or VW1000ES). There’s tons of vertical and horizontal lens shift…I think only the Epson projectors offer slightly more.  No matter – there’s still tons of lens shift, or for those of you in some other parts of the world… Tonnes.
Is Sony’s VPL-VW600ES worth $15K?   You all know the drill, it’s time vs. money.   10 years ago most 720p projectors sold for at least $4000.   Today, Optoma has half a dozen under $600.   So, sure, if you are in no hurry, or the money is tight, wait.  Certainly in 3 years there will be 4K projectors for well under $5000, or at least one would expect…  (The world seems to think 8K will be the standard by 2020, in fact, in one discussion I had at the show, it was suggested that Broadcast TV (and maybe satellite/cable) will skip true 4K and go right to 8K content, but out 6-7 years.  The technology will be there by then, in terms of downloading speeds, storage…

But if you have the money, from what little I’ve seen, there’s nothing I’d rather have that costs less.  Ok, those higher end JVC projectors at $8,000 and $12,000 will easily beat this Sony at black levels, but I’d certainly rather give up the difference in black levels (since the Sony’s damn good at them anyway) in exchange for 4K.  I have no doubts, I’d definitely spring the extra for the Sony were I able.

I don’t recall seeing 3D being demo’d on the Sony at the show, but I definitely did get a good look at 3D at my house, weeks ago.  Got to watch a chunk of Ultimate Wave Tahiti.  Think good 3D looks great now?  Can’t wait until I’m watching 3D in true 4K.

Enough gushing already.   I really have only one complaint about the VPL-VW600ES, and that is the price.  I’m not saying that it’s not a fair price, but I sure wish they had achieved $9999, as that probably would find a whole lot more folks in the world watching this projector.

I can’t wait to get this one in to review.  Good luck to Sony prying this one out of my hands.  Nothing short of nukes, or a VW1100ES is likely to convince me to return this one when it arrives in a month or so for review.

Awesome!  -art


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 樓主| 發表於 2013-10-2 18:39:14 | 顯示全部樓層
本文章最後由 terry 於 2013-10-2 18:43 編輯

總結Projectorreviews的作者Art的看法與消息:VW600ES/500ES與1000ES/1100ES最大的不同處
1. 鏡頭檔次不同
2. 對比略遜一籌,但是優於VW50ES,等於或大於VW95ES

Art表示他不會考慮JVC eShift3的X900, X700,有預算的話直上VW600ES,即便價錢多了一截。
Art總結他對VW600ES唯一不滿之處與Fred兄英雄所見略同:希望售價能壓到9999美元,這樣一定會有更多潛在買家願意買單。
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發表於 2013-10-9 20:51:24 | 顯示全部樓層
日版VW500ES啟動了.

2013年11月15日発売予定, 希望小売価格 840,000円(税抜価格 800,000円)

http://www.sony.jp/video-projector/products/VPL-VW500ES/
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-10-9 21:44:52 | 顯示全部樓層
r32 發表於 2013-10-9 20:51
日版VW500ES啟動了.

2013年11月15日発売予定, 希望小売価格 840,000円(税抜価格 800,000円)

哇!日本版售價訂這麼低!?光訂價還沒折扣就只要台幣25萬,實際日本國內入手應該不到24萬,比美規機便宜了1.5萬美元(44萬台幣),便宜近20萬台幣!!這個日本國內貨訂價實在太佛心了!
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-10-9 23:58:14 | 顯示全部樓層
個人剛才把這個"惡耗"貼在美國全世界最大的影音論壇Avsforum後,果然老美群情激憤,大家都在問如何弄個日本水貨....RS32兄也參與討論....
http://www.avsforum.com/t/148909 ... -projector-2013/630


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發表於 2013-10-10 01:28:30 | 顯示全部樓層
本文章最後由 Rafeel 於 2013-10-10 12:44 編輯


http://www.phileweb.com/news/d-av/201310/09/33891.html

http://www.itmedia.co.jp/lifestyle/articles/1310/09/news061.html




簡單整理VPL-VW1100ES、VW1000ES與VPL-VW500ES的差異


1. VW1100ES、VW1000ES的重量約20kg,VW500ES的重量約14kg。

2. VW1100ES、VW1000ES採用330W高壓水銀燈泡,VW500ES採用265W高壓水銀燈。

3. VW1100ES、VW1000ES的亮度為2000流明,動態對比為一百萬比一,VW500ES的亮度為1700流明,動態對比為二十萬比一。

4. VW1100ES、VW1000ES的鏡頭元件為「ARC-F(All Range Crisp Focus Lens)」,使用18層玻璃鏡頭,VW500ES的鏡頭元件使用13層玻璃+1層塑膠鏡頭。

5. VW1100ES、VW1000ES是自動鏡頭蓋開關,VW500ES是手動的鏡頭蓋。

6. VW1100ES隨機附贈兩副3D眼鏡「TDG-PJ1」(紅外線方式),VW500ES沒有隨機附贈3D眼鏡,需另外購買,也可以使用其他廠牌的藍牙3D眼鏡(RF方式)。

7. VW1100ES、VW1000ES完整對應DCI色域,VW500ES則否,但應付一般標準的Rec.709色域綽綽有餘。

8. VW500ES有搭載自動校色功能,VW1100ES、VW1000ES則否。

9. VW1100ES價格為178萬5000日圓,VW500ES價格為84萬日圓。

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發表於 2013-10-10 13:48:49 | 顯示全部樓層
terry 發表於 2013-10-9 23:58
個人剛才把這個"惡耗"貼在美國全世界最大的影音論壇Avsforum後,果然老美群情激憤,大家都在問如何弄個日本 ...

真的, 已有數名avs網友暫停訂購600ES, 並會用電郵向Sony US表達不滿.
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發表於 2013-10-10 13:57:02 | 顯示全部樓層
說句公道話, Sony US的確對美國本土的1000ES用家, 做到了超越100%服務承諾.

只是那個代價竟要由首批的600ES買家來付?
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